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WWDC 2019 Rumors: What New iOS 13 Features Will Apple Advertise?



In the 111st episode of iPhone Life Podcast, seen as Sara and David review all of the iOS 13 features we expect Apple to uncover for iPhone and iPad June 3 at the Worldwide Developers Conference. And post next week on June 3 for our special post-WWDC episode where we discuss everything Apple advertises.

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Transcription of episode 111:

David Averbach: Hello and welcome to the 111 episode of iPhone Life Podcast. I am David Averbach, CEO and publisher.

Sarah Kingsbury: And I'm Sarah Kingsbury, Senior Web Editor.

David Averbach: Donna is out sick today, so Sara and I will stick the fort, but we have a great show for you. We're going to go over the WWDC rumors coming up, because WWDC is next week. But before we start, I'll tell you a little about one of our sponsors for this episode, Fanatic. So Fanatic created an app called Informant, it's actually Informant 5 now, and it's the best calendar app out there.

David Averbach: And then, if you are someone who still uses Apple's calendar app and is frustrated by the bad UI and how hard it is to use, checkout Informant 5. Part of what makes it great is that Apple has a reminder app and a calendar app, and they are two separate, non-related apps. Well, Informant-

Sarah Kingsbury: For some reason.

David Averbach: For some reason. Informant has combined them into an app, as it should be because many reminders have a calendar item for it, and vice versa. Also, they only put a lot of attention to detail in terms of making it easy to use and user friendly. It's free to try. So make sure you check it out. You can see in the App Store for Informant 5, or we will link it in our notes on iphonelife.com/podcast.

David Averbach: Next up, let's talk about our Tips of the Day newsletter. It's our free service. Every day we send you something cool you can do with the iPhone. And then go to iphonelife.com/dailytips to subscribe. My favorite tip from this week is how to make bookmarks in Safari.

David Averbach: So I think I mentioned this, I switched from Chrome to Safari a few weeks ago, and I've tried to optimize it. So this is a good tip for me because I have multiple folders and I have one for work, one for personal and a few others. And then, to do that, let me tell you how to do it.

Sarah Kingsbury: Creating a Bookmark Folder?

David Averbach: How to make a bookmark folder. Yeah. So you go to the Safari app, you click the bookmark icon and it looks like a book. Then click Edit, and then click New Folder. Then of course you can name the folder. Then you can do it, so you can put your bookmarks in it, and then you're done. It's super simple. Of course, you can do this from Safari on your computer, and it works pretty well too.

Sarah Kingsbury: As long as you have iCloud enabled for Safari on your devices.

David Averbach: Yes, it is important, that leads us nicely to our insider.

David Averbach: So next time we'll tell you a bit about iPhone Life Insider. This is our premium subscription. In addition to getting a tip every day, we'll send you a video with that tip, and that makes it very easy to follow. We have in-depth video guides. We have a digital subscription to the magazine, and we have extended versions of the podcast. Of course, we have the opportunity to ask questions about your iPhone.

David Averbach: So Sarah will tell us about her favorite question, but before she does, make sure you go to iphonelife if you want to subscribe. com / podcast and we actually have a discount for you. Going to iphonelife.com/podcast will link to this discount, but I'm telling you right now, it's iphonelife.com/podcastdiscount, and it takes you to give you $ 5 to subscribe.

David Averbach: Sarah, what was your favorite question this week?

Sarah Kingsbury: So I got a question I thought was very important just because I use this feature so much on my own devices. The question was, "How do I get my passwords that I have stored on the iPad, my website and the app password to be on my iPhone?" Right? So this insider refers to a keychain, which is Apple's password management that manages your passwords, stores them across your devices.

Sarah Kingsbury: So instead of trying to remember them, you can just fill them in automatically and also suggest strong passwords, which are very important and alert you, for example, if you use the same password because it makes your accounts more vulnerable. But to be able to use it across your devices, you need to have it set up to do so. So here's how. You need to enable keychain, as it is called in the iCloud settings on both iPhone and iPad.

David Averbach: If you have a Mac, I recommend you do it for your Mac as well.

Sarah Kingsbury: Right. Almost all devices you use the Safari app. And then the steps to do this are the same on both iPhone and iPad. If you're on a Mac, go to Apple preferences, iCloud and do it there. But for the iPhone and iPad, open the Settings app, tap your name at the top of the Settings menu, your name, your Apple ID, and press iCloud.

Sarah Kingsbury: If the keychain doesn't already say, On, in the menu list that appears there, click on it and you change the iCloud keychain. Then any other device you have iCloud keychain on which you are signed in to the same iCloud account, has all your passwords for all your accounts and apps.

David Averbach: This was one of my favorite features of actually why I switched Safari is because it makes password processing super easy and it actually works for third-party apps as well. Many times Apple, if you use the web version on your computer, then open the third-party app, it will know the password.

David Averbach: So it's super convenient. It makes it very easy to have secure passwords and have Apple pretty much just take care of everything. So make sure you have it set up because it's worth it. It is easy. Make sure you subscribe to iPhone Life Insider. Next step. It seems we have … that we have no comments from our listeners, so let's get to the main topic.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. So WWDC, if you've listened to our podcast for a while, is Apple's annual worldwide developer conference. Is this the 30th? I think it can be.

David Averbach: Oh, I lost track, but many.

Sarah Kingsbury: Don't take my word for it, but it can be. Usually, this is the biggest advertising that Apple does in addition to the iPhone announcement, but instead of hardware focused, it's software focused. So this is when we will find out what features Apple should include and IOS 13 when it comes out in the fall. But also watchOS, Apple TVOS and the Mac, which we don't cover too much, but there are some exciting developments with Mac OS that will affect your iOS devices, so we'll talk about it too.

David Averbach: Great. So let's hear it. What are the latest IOS 13 rumors?

Sarah Kingsbury: So I just made a list of rumors I'm most excited about. One is dark mode. People have loved that since it was added to the Mac OS, I think it was Mojave.

David Averbach: Yes.

Sarah Kingsbury: And then we'll get it on our iPhones and iPads, which will make it much easier to use our iPhones in low light. But also, sometimes people just prefer that background. It makes it easier to just focus on the text, unlike all the different menu options and other things.

David Averbach: I wish Donna was here because Donna made the switch to dark mode. So first and foremost, dark mode, basically all the apps basically have a white background. If you open Notes, there will be a bright background. In Mail, there is a white background, the calendar's white. So dark mode basically means the background for all these is dark, and that means that the text color is usually white. I haven't loved it, but many people do it. Have you used it?

Sarah Kingsbury: A little bit. To be honest, I just updated my Mac, so I didn't have a chance to really … because my older Mac couldn't. So I haven't had a chance to really explore it, but I'm also happy because it's just nice not to have your … I feel my eyes are stung by the brightness of my screen sometimes.

David Averbach: Yes. See I have the setting on my phone, where at night it makes my phone a little yellow and less light, which I like.

Sarah Kingsbury: Oh yes, like Night Shift?

David Averbach: Yes.

Sarah Kingsbury: I love it.

David Averbach: I like Night Shift, but dark mode, it's too dark. I do not know. I would actually be curious to see if you have a Mac, if you use it. It may be our question during the day. Do you use dark mode on Mac and look forward to it for iPhone? So send us it at podcast@iphonelife.com. Okay. So we have dark mode and the other benefit you mentioned for dark mode is that it also saves battery life, so that's fine.

Sarah Kingsbury: Right.

David Averbach: What else have we got? [19659012] Sarah Kingsbury: I guess this is one that Donna added, the reminder program and the Maps app get both updates. The reminder program actually comes with a new user interface. It's going to have instead of the weird list of your different types of reminders, it's going to be a main page with your various planned and flagged, and such things. And then, I don't know, I really really … even though we were just talking about the reminder program, I really use it. And then I'm interested in seeing how this will change or affect the way I use it.

David Averbach: Yeah, I use it pretty much too, and it's a simplicity that I would be worried that they would destroy, but we want to see.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. I mean, at this point I don't actually use it for reminders in a way that is super helpful, I use it most for my shopping list.

David Averbach: Yes. I have my list of groceries. I have recurring reminders.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. I have one to give dogs their heartworm prevention and watering my plants.

David Averbach: I have one to take out the garbage. Okay. So we have a reminder.

Sarah Kingsbury: It's an important one.

David Averbach: It is. I forget, and then I have to wait a week and that is sad. What more?

Sarah Kingsbury: So I guess I hadn't heard any Maps app, so maybe I should skip it. I think it's just going to have more better features, but the usual type of thing. You know, maybe I'll save this for complaints. I have a complaint about the Kart app.

David Averbach: Ok.

Sarah Kingsbury: So Find My Friends and Find My iPhone Combine in a Single App

David Averbach: Interesting. Interesting.

Sarah Kingsbury: … that makes a lot of sense because they like to do the same and only one you are looking for the person and the other you are searching for the device, so why not have them [crosstalk 00:10:50]?

David Averbach: It makes sense.

Sarah Kingsbury: I am very excited about the Mail app updates because you will be able to mute threads, you will be able to tag email messages to be read later. Although I usually just flag them I want to read later. This is the most exciting, you can block contacts.

David Averbach: Ooh, I like it.

Sarah Kingsbury: So, of course, all these rumors, not facts, but I just suppose it's definitely happening because I'm very excited about it.

David Averbach: So what does it mean to dampen a thread?

Sarah Kingsbury: It really means you have gone back and forth in an email, that you can only mute it and stop notifying it if you receive email alerts.

David Averbach: Oh, I see. So it is muting a thread in terms of the alerts for it. Okay. Look, I have my messages turned off all the time.

Sarah Kingsbury: I mean, I can misunderstand it, it may just be that it doesn't even really get in your inbox, but it's a bit weird. You would like to find it later.

David Averbach: We want to see.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. Another exciting thing is that of Apple's … Many of these updates are making the iPad much better for work, because the latest iPad announcement, Apple said absolutely, "This is your new laptop." So a really exciting thing is that we will be able to open multiple windows for the same app.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes.

David Averbach: So you can have side by side Safari or something?

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes.

David Averbach: Like for multitasking? Or you can do what they call, stacks, where you can sort your different windows and then pull them up to work on them or reject them.

David Averbach: Interesting.

Sarah Kingsbury: Kind of like the Safari tabs you do.

David Averbach: I mean, when the iPad Pro came out, I wrote a whole article on how it's a great iPad, but you can't use it for work or as a portable replacement, in my opinion. I have many email addresses that agree with me, and many emails disagree with me, so it's controversial, but that's my opinion. I would love it if it wasn't true anymore.

David Averbach: I'm a little skeptical because Apple has been working on this for a while. I'm sure it will be a useful upgrade. I am very surprised if it becomes a portable replacement, but it is absolutely multitasking, despite adding features called multitasking, one of the main reasons I struggle to use iPad as a portable replacement. So if they have any nice UI changes for it, it would go a long way.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. One thing I do with iPad to make it work better as a laptop replacement is my keyboard. I use many hotkeys so I can easily switch between apps without having to swing up and open all the different screens and things.

David Averbach: What are some of your favorite shortcuts?

Sarah Kingsbury: Command-Tab.

David Averbach: Yes. I love Command-Tab. I love it too [inaudible 00:13:37] too. So Command-Tab is a way to easily switch between your recently used apps without having to open the multitask or app switch on the board.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. So you only do Command-Tab and it will bring you to the last one you used. But if you continue to hold and hit Tab again, it will take you through the entire open apps list. You don't have to switch back and forth between.

David Averbach: Tilde.

Sarah Kingsbury: Tilde.

David Averbach: I love it.

Sarah Kingsbury: It's great too because it lets you switch between Windows in the same app, which I suppose we could also use in the iPad and that's exciting.

David Averbach: Yes. I was just ready to say it. I use it on Mac a lot because if I have said, open a number of different windows in an app, like in Safari or in Excel or something, you can switch between them with Command-Tilde. It would now be a feature that would work on the iPad and IOS 13 if they made this change.

Sarah Kingsbury: I get very frustrated when I show something to someone on the computer, and then they navigate and they just drag the mouse and click on things. I'm like, "No, Command-Tab. Command-Tilde."

David Averbach: Yes, yes, yes. I do the same. I'm always like, "Have you heard of command loss?"

Sarah Kingsbury: Change your life. So another thing is that the iPad is, it is possible that the latest iPad Pro, we get mouse support.

David Averbach: Wow. That would be a game shift for me.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes, I don't know. I'm a little skeptical, but I'm open to it. It is an exciting development if it happens.

David Averbach: Because I think what I've been saying for a while, the iPad's hardware is good enough to support work functionality. It's a software. One of the most important things is having full computer user interface, which is like Mac OS, and mouse support is definitely a big part of it. Being able to use a mouse provides a lot of ease in navigating all of these different windows.

David Averbach: Then add windows, the ability to have different things open in an app, and then add mouse support, it gets pretty close. But it also gets pretty close … It's fun because Apple swears they'll never make a data interface for an iPad, and then they slowly add to those features that make it more and more computer like. [19659012] Sarah Kingsbury: And then you will be interested in Mac OS rumors that I have for you?

David Averbach: Okay. Let's hear it.

Sarah Kingsbury: Well, I'm not done with the iPhone.

David Averbach: Okay. Okay. Okay.

Sarah Kingsbury: So another update I'm excited about is moving the accessibility settings menu. It's now buried in the general settings, but I find that I don't even need accessibility features, except that there's something I like, but I often go to that menu, it's a little pain. They will move it into the main settings menu, which I think is a good idea.

David Averbach: They also add many features or settings to Accessibility that are only more general features, which is interesting, as I guess it makes sense why they post it under General then. But it is strange because many of the settings you set there really do not have much to do with accessibility really.

Sarah Kingsbury: I may not know, but I think they are not limited to it. And then, if it is buried so, many don't even know they have the ability to do these things.

David Averbach: Yes. No, I like to pull it out more of a page, so I regularly go with it as well.

Sarah Kingsbury: Another thing that Apple should do is … well, they add hearing tracking to their health tracking options. As part of that, there will be better hearing integration.

David Averbach: Oh, cool.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes, which I think is very important. Then you would like to know that according to rumors, Siri will have the opportunity to distinguish between different voices for HomePod.

David Averbach: I'm very happy to hear it and it's time. Okay, cool.

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes, and this is probably related, Siri will better filter out surrounding noise so that it can understand you better.

David Averbach: Oh, good. So why Sara tells me I'm glad it's been one of my big complaints about HomePod is it has … The advantage of HomePod, of course, is a smart speaker, so you can do the thing like text from it or read your texts or you can plan … I think you can schedule a calendar now.

Sarah Kingsbury: I don't know.

David Averbach: There are many different features on which you can use Siri to use, but there are major security issues if you have it in a public place in your house. And then, having the ability to tell who talks means I could use it for subtitling, but my partner's six-year-old couldn't, for example, seem important.

David Averbach: And so right now is in a situation where you can either turn that feature off at times, it's not a very smart, smart speaker, or you leave it on and you take the risk that someone who Going by can listen to your text messages or send a text message.

Sarah Kingsbury: That's the main reason I didn't have my … I have my HomePod in my bedroom because I have a teenager at home and she has other teenage friends over and they are mostly just very nice, respectful children, but I can see them mess with my subtitles.

David Averbach: Yes. It feels a bit funny and I've had a few times when my partner is six years old, has sent and sent text messages with Siri, and the results were funny, but you won't go there.

Sarah Kingsbury: Not true. So far as watchOS goes-

David Averbach: Okay. So we pack up the iPhone?

Sarah Kingsbury: Right.

David Averbach: That's it for the iPhone.

Sarah Kingsbury: They are actually a whole lot more things. This is just a quick summary of them. I did a roundup of WWDC rumors that are on our website right now, and I want to link it to the show notes, but it was also based on two outlets, 9to5mac and Bloomberg, both of which were able to get the best kind of rumors shot. So I recommend checking them out as well. These articles are related to my article.

David Averbach: Can I tell you what I hope we get, and I'm talking about it literally for five years now? Can you guess what it is?

Sarah Kingsbury: No

David Averbach: It's multiuser management for IOS.

Sarah Kingsbury: Oh yes, absolutely. At least for the iPad.

David Averbach: At least for the iPad, but even for the iPhone, you must have a guest to log in or have the ability to have different people who have different logins. They have had this from Mac for many years. That's the same problem where my partner is six years old like using my phone in the car to play games. But then he has full access to my phone and he can send text messages, which he loves to do. Now he can read, and he can read all the text messages and emails, and there are so many privacy issues there, it's really if you have it for Mac, I don't know why they don't have it for iOS. [19659012] Sarah Kingsbury: Yes, I agree.

David Averbach: So we'll see. Maybe it happens, but I doubt it because I want it for many years.

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David Averbach: And what Hyper encountered, is basically a dock that you put into your iPad, which lets you use it with third-party devices. So in fact over the weekend we had some posts in our Facebook group, "How do I transfer photos from the Nikon camera to my iPad?" The answer is this dock.

David Averbach: And then, what this bridge has, it has, first and foremost, it has a headphone jack, which is very nice, but it also has a micro SD card location so you can transfer photos back and forth from a camera. It has a standard USB location. It has pretty much all the different ports you will want to be able to use your computer to connect to devices.

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David Averbach: Okay Sarah. So we're just gonna talk about Apple Watch, right?

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes, watchOS 6. So it looks like the updates, the rumored updates that Apple is trying to make, are making the clock even more independent from the iPhone. I mean, now we have mobile data, and then people have been able to call and do things like that. We have better Siri with iPhone, I mean, with Apple Watch, but now Apple Watch will have its own App Store app.

Sarah Kingsbury: So you can download apps directly to Apple Watch, and just like last time we got podcasts, now we're going to get books. So you can download an audio book directly to the Apple Watch and listen to it without having to bring your phone.

David Averbach: Very cool.

Sarah Kingsbury: So of course there will be more clock pages and complications and such things.

David Averbach: So you will be able to get an app that is a standalone app that works on Apple Watch, but doesn't have a iPhone companion basically?

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes.

David Averbach: Interesting.

Sarah Kingsbury: And you can download it. Previously, you always had to download stuff on the iPhone.

David Averbach: Oh, so you can download it directly from Apple Watch to Apple Watch?

Sarah Kingsbury: Yes. You can access the App Store from your watch [

David Averbach: Very cool. Very cool.

Sarah Kingsbury: … as you've never been able to do before. So there are rumors about the clock.

David Averbach: Ok.

Sarah Kingsbury: Now for Mac 0S, I'm not going to talk about all rumors, but the one I'm most interested in is Apple's developer package Marzipan, which just like Apple has, some of the native apps, I think it was shares and voice memos, they made them cross-platform so you could use them on both Mac and iPad and iPhone. They have now made it possible for third-party developers to do so as well. So it's pretty exciting, the idea, you can have applications across the platforms. Some of them even said that we finally had a unified App Store where most of the apps could be used on all of your devices.

David Averbach: It's cool.

Sarah Kingsbury: I think it's a little ways down the road, but I'm excited by all the different types of integration we're seeing.

David Averbach: Yeah, there is slowly emerging operating systems here, but I mean I love it. I & # 39; ve been a fan of that from the beginning, as it seems to have features that go cross-platform is really important. So I'm happy Apple is moving in that direction, even if they said they wouldn't.

Sarah Kingsbury: So what of these rumors are you most excited about David? David Averbach: I mean, I'm really interested to see, I mean first of all it's definitely … everything we & # 39; 39; re hearing is moving in the direction we just said, child of cross-platform functionality, which it excited about. The other thing that I do not hear is big, fancy, new features. So some ways it feels like Apple is heading in the direction of Polish right now, as opposed to one of those times when they redesigned the IOS from the ground up, like IOS 7 or IOS 11 did that a little bit. So, I'm happy about that because I get big when I hear big, big redsigns.

Sarah Kingsbury: It's always so painful for the first three to six months.

David Averbach: Yeah , exactly. I don & # 39; t know, that & # 39; s my thoughts on it is everything I 'm hearing, all of those features sound. But none of them are like, "Oh my God, I'm so excited. Can't wait."

Sarah Kingsbury: Yeah, they're all sound. I do not have the most excited about them because they don & # 39; t have the wow factor, they are really the ones that really refine the way the iPhone is. or the watch works. So that's just like a much smoother, more convenient, just experience. I think that there will be a lot of this, the combination of the apps and the addition of new sort of features and interfaces. I'm excited about it.

David Averbach: Yeah, I'm excited. I & # 39; ll be really curious to see what they do with … because a lot of times they have a big, new feature that is often the ones that don't necessarily leak. So we'll see. Also, one of the things to look for is often at WWDC with the software updates, they are giving you hints as to what hardware updates will come in the fall.

Sarah Kingsbury: Right.

David Averbach:            So it'll be interesting to get some hints in terms of where Apple's going with software, because that often leads to new hardware or hardware changes.

Sarah Kingsbury:           Right. Speaking of WWDC, it's next week on June 3rd. The keynote will be broadcast. That's how they kickoff WWDC. It's a week-long conference, but the part we care about the keynote where they announced all these software updates, that will take place at 10:00 AM Pacific Time. We'll be covering the announcement live in our Facebook group. Then immediately after David, Donna and I, will be kind of giving you our take. So we'll see if these rumors and our opinion about them actually pan out. So you can tune in next week. So instead of every other week, we'll have two podcasts in a row.

David Averbach:            Back-to-back podcasts. Donna will be back. So if you guys are on any of our mailing lists, you will get an email telling you all this, but if not, or just preemptively make sure you are in our Facebook group because we will be doing live commentary throughout the entire announcement. I think it'll be Donna and I will be doing that. And so, we will be giving you live commentary. Then immediately after, like Sarah was saying, make sure you look for our podcast because that'll be fun.

Sarah Kingsbury:           Right. If you have any questions while you're watching the podcast, you can ask those questions in the iPhone Life group, Facebook group, and really address them in the podcast as well.

David Averbach:            Yeah, and we welcome you guy's input as well in the Facebook group. A lot of times people see Donna and I giving live commentary and they think, "Okay, well I'm not supposed to comment." Feel free to comment, join the conversation.

Sarah Kingsbury:           Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we spend a lot of time sort of thinking about Apple, but that doesn't mean … I mean, sometimes a reader will write in with a totally different perspective and I'm like, "Oh yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense." So it's really great to get that back and forth with our readers and listeners if you're listening to the podcast, because you get so focused on little things, it kind of expands your worldview, and we have some really smart listeners and readers.

David Averbach:            Absolutely. With that in mind, I'd like to expand our question of the week. Our first question of the week was, "Do you use dark mode on your Mac? Are you looking forward to it?" But I'd be curious here. Is there any features in particular that you guys are hoping to hear from at WWDC or looking forward to that we just announced?

Sarah Kingsbury:           I knew you were going to end up having to add that question.

David Averbach:            I know. I did too, podcastiphonelife.com.

David Averbach:            This wraps up our episode unless you are an Insider, in which case we'll have some bonus content for you. If you're not an Insider, make sure you go subscribe. If you are an Insider, stick around and we're going talk about complaints and learning of the week. Everyone else, thanks so much for listening.

Sarah Kingsbury:           Thanks everyone.


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